First things first, here is the link for those who don’t know about this.
http://dubeat.com/2008/11/molestation-horror-at-iit-fest/ copy-paste, too lazy to embed links.
Now I know, I know, I don’t follow current events around for they’re so transient, yet this one made me think.
Being one of the people who carry the IITian tag with a modicum of pride if I might add, I feel compelled to eke out my thoughts on this whole charade. That and the fact that the original thread is now locked and I cannot comment there.
As someone wise once gave a rule that effectively says that the longer a thread lasts the more it gets filled with bull, that is to say the longer a thread lasts, the more it devolves to petty flaming.
So first a big fcuk you to all the wannabe flamers, thank you guys, and I know some of them were IITians and while the comments were funny (undoubtedly), a serious topic like this, which effects the way the world percieves us demands greater justice.
Of course you would say that we’re too cool to care, which is exactly where you would be wrong.
The first word that crossed my mind when I read the link was “wtf”. Since I did not attend the concert so I do not really know how bad the crowd situation was. So what can I really have to say?
Here’s the line that really got me worked up.
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One volunteer, feigning deafness allegedly pressed unnecessarily close to a girl in order to hear her complaint.
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Now, I was a hospitality volley myself. Its a first year kid for chrisakes. My point being, that this is a guy who has just spent two months in IITK, is still a teenager, and since he is good at studies, a bit socially awkward too. I know I was there. To those of you wondering what exactly is the point I am trying to make, it is briefly, there is a fcuking rock concert going on, you’re in the front rows right next to the stage, how much is audible? I mean what is the big deal if he leaned in too close? He is trying to help, he is no professional volunteer, he is trying to learn as he goes and how can he help when he can’t even know what he has to help about?
Yet this is not all. Someone once said, it is not what we say, but what we leave unsaid that reveals a lot more about us.
First of all a little disclaimer. I have never been molested, since I travel mostly on general class, I am accustomed to physical jostling, but I have no idea what it is like to be molested. So if I sound offensive then I am sorry, my bad. Now to the issue at hand.
A girl complaining about a guy leaning in too close on her. What is this 1420 ad? I mean, please can you be a little more insecure? If you have issues with people who are trying to help leaning on you, to try and understand the problem, keep your distance.
It is the stereotyping that gets me all worked up. So you’re in a crowd that molests you, and you decide that since the grounds are in IIT Kanpur, the guys must be IITians. Brilliant. I wonder how you didn’t get through JEE.
So when words like cream of the country and premier institute are thrown around with such gay abandon, I cannot help but wonder. Who or what do you think an IITian is? I mean sure we have much higher IQ’s, and are fast learners, but other than that? Do you mean to say, that if you girls were molested back home in DU or BITS or some such two bit school then it would be okay? Does it hurt when I call your sorry school two bit?
Of course I can take the lame position that there is no proof that the guys who were hooting were IITians. I would be right and wrong. Infact it doesn’t matter if I am right or wrong. The fact of the matter is, even if assuming that the molesters were IITians, which is preposterous, incredulous and other synonyms in my opinion, what does it prove? Are you by any means trying to imply that since a bunch of girls got molested at IITK by guys who might not have been IITians, that we IITians are lecherous lust driven creatures with no moral standards? Great job, I see where Aaj Tak recruits its talent from.
I am living my frigging life here people and I frankly could not care less. But when you write up such nonsense, and gossip like “you know, I used to think that IIT guys were such saints, but infact they’re all jerks, I know this because I got molested in IITK”. Duh.
First, I’ll let the statistics talk, how many news paper reports have we read of girls getting molested in DU or other universities? And how many times have you read a report that has IIT and molestation in the same sentence? Exactly. Other than the fact that there are too few girls (which is something that guys here often lament and a bit funny, and I cannot resist the urge to mention this), the fact remains that once you get into an IIT, it is something that you cherish and no one in their right mind tries to throw away a chance at getting a degree from here. A student caught molesting on campus would be thrown off before you can bat an eyelid. A crime like molestation is often a crime of opportunity and hence statistically, you’ll find that the perpetrator would be someone from outside, one who is likely to commit a crime and able to slip away at a moment’s notice, because lets face it, a cul fest lasts such a little time, that by the time the girls complained, the actual criminals could have easily left the campus. That and the fact that the administration here has no real authority over the conduct of the participants, other than disbarring from the event.
On the other hand a guy from campus would think a million times, and always decide that touching a girl inappropriately is not something worth throwing your degree away. These guys got through JEE, so we know that they can think rationally.
This is it, I guess, or as close to being it as I am ever going to get. So the next time you think about stereotyping people, here is something that I want you to know.
I had a friend, who had contacts in our shopping center, and every year after Antaragni, he’ll tell us how many condoms were sold. I know it was demented and yet hilarious.
Anyways, the last year, about 3000 packs of condoms were sold in the three days. That makes a 1000 condoms daily. Assuming for the moment that there was no boy on boy action, that means a 1000 girls had sex daily.
So am I right in thinking that the girls from DU are filthy disease ridden whores?
Kudos dude… the issue could not have been addressed in a better way than how you did.
I am currently studying in IIT KGP, and I hear a lot of such crap every year after Spring Fest. People who keep cribbing about every small thing that goes wrong, totally forgetting that it is a fest conducted by a handful of undergrad students. Maybe if they could understand how much hard work is put in by the organizing team to make this happen, they will start fulfilling their part of the responsibility instead of beating by the bush.
Why should boys have all the fun? Boys face all the rush too. If you wanna enjoy a concert like a boy, be prepared to be jostled in a crowd.
Thanks for putting things in perspective for everyone.
i can totally understand, guess its the same story everywhere…
I too think the issue was blown way out of proportion..
also the iitk guys shouldnt hav reacted the way they did(by adding to their forum a whole lot of crap with snake families,indian politics as well as prison break being discussed there).I mean,it could have been kept a serious issue,and effectively dealt with,but this only lowers our reputation in their eyes.Our un-gentle-manly behaviour only would have added to newly arisen dislkie towards us
The issue is in short sad
naah dude, i tell ya…
ppl here don’t take it srsly…
and i guess it coz our exams are near
and at times as such… ppl have a very very short fuse in this period i say as a lame excuse
oh and just an after thought:
iitians are a gaussian distribution too… so i guess there is no such thing as the mythical iitian stereotype…
coming for mt in morning??
dude system time of ur blog correct it please
arey sahi aap aaye hamare blog pe sahi sahi
haan woh kuch time zone america waala hai….
ab kya adjust karein… agle saal wahin honge lol
3000 condoms were sold but i m pretty sure no IITian would have got a chance to use.
to aise me bechare aur kya karenge…
hehe….
haan yaar
bechare iitians
i pity the fo’
Haha! Well-tackled and good job pwning them.
I had pretty much passed this off as girls who crossed over to the crowd’s side and got what they deserved. I mean, throw a stone on a puddle of muddy water and what do you expect? Those lol-civil girls should’ve stayed where they were told to. Their mistake, totally, if you ask me.
Oh, and, the whore-perspective is mind-boggling. 3000! ;_;
yaar from next time onwards woh shop walo ko bol ke condoms selling hi band karwa dena during antaragni .. lets make it a sex free … cause after all … we will never get the chance to have fun !!!
very nice synopsis of the whole incident, enjoyed reading it. didnt know about the antaragni condom thing, thats actually pretty shocking! i mean where?!! nice blog
this is a second yearite from IITK.
@ nareshov: pwing toh tumse hi seekhe hai yaar… oh and btw the guy with the info: vikrampg hehe.
@ abu: haan yaar batao, admin turant bikes pe tala laga sakti hai but jo zaroori decisions hain woh kabhi nahi leti
@ ashish: yeah i was pretty shocked myself too.. do you blog?
bastard…i was about to write a post…
but u wrote it first, and wrote exactly what i was abt to write
:-X
hehe…
and i am absolutely loving the pseudo-celebrity status it has given me…
122 blog views today already man i am on fire or something hehe…
guess i was too busy “molesting” girls…
the worts part about these DU ppl is that they start the war, but more often than not dont have the intellectual capacity, not to mention the vocabulary to follow up with the heavy artillery…
you have no idea what its like.. I have seen lots…thats part and parcel of being in the physics department . they say stuff like
“OOO..I love cows and six fingered babies and misshapen vegetables and gay dogs…and I dont see why they make ppl from St. Step-Hens study Quantum Mechanics… we are all famous string theorists”.
This crap usually lasts till about the first midsem, till they get utterly fucked, then they start saying
“OOO man, rebellion is the word…dont be a conformist and chapofy in exams. Be like us. Get fucked. ps: we are getting fucked BY CHOICE ps2: revolution (yay) ps3: you IITians are gay faggers incapable of appreciating the finer points of life and using your roommamtes semen as white sauce”
I hate DU
gee…i am getting randomly frust at Step-Hens. well, it IS a fact that Step-mothers, Step-fathers and Step-Hens often suck
@ porny lol
Well written, Mr. Rational. The ending was really fantastic, but believe me, IITians get some action too
@ i really can’t pronounce that i tried
these action getting guys you talk about, good for them
yup i write once in a while…..nogoodnamesavailable.blogspot.com
The other day I read your blog, in all its asinine glory, and it spurred me to write this rant.
“Anyways, the last year, about 3000 packs of condoms were sold in the three days. That makes a 1000 condoms daily.”
It’s good to know that IIT’ians are practicing safe gay sex. Happy corn-holing
“So am I right in thinking that the girls from DU are filthy disease ridden whores?”
I WAS going to call you a bastard, but you’re too ugly to be a love child. You don’t have to put a woman down to look like a real man. Well there’s a thin line between honesty and crudeness. However its another matter if you are trying to look like a bumbling insecure intellectually deficient fuckwad…go ahead by all means.
“I have never been molested, since I travel mostly on general class, I am accustomed to physical jostling, but I have no idea what it is like to be molested. So if I sound offensive then I am sorry, my bad.”
Why don’t you do us a favour and lie down in front of an incoming train? We’ve had it with this shit and I’m just looking for an excuse to watch some geek get beaten to a pulp.
“Being one of the people who carry the IITian tag with a modicum of pride if I might add.”
I really DO wonder what it must be like to be such a SUPERIOR human being…lol
Stop acting like a sanctimonious jabroni .Your academic degree doesn’t automatically turn you into an aristrocat. You fooled a jaded crock of a system into thinking that you are a genius. Big effing deal!
@ Porny Sadkamaar is a demented IITian (yay)
“the worts part about these DU ppl is that they start the war, but more often than not dont have the intellectual capacity, not to mention the vocabulary to follow up with the heavy artillery…”
That kind of arrogance is just laughable. We have a vocabulary far more extensive than yours, from about a decade before you started preparing for the CAT. So watch where you tread, if it’s a war of words you intend to wage against us.
@No nonsense guy
“People who keep cribbing about every small thing that goes wrong, totally forgetting that it is a fest conducted by a handful of undergrad students”
*snort* Take your patronizing pat on the head and shove it up your ass.
This deep-seated insecurity and immaturity that results in and perpetuates the whole caveman attitude needs to be recognized and dealt with. As long as men continue to encourage and support immature childish male behavior (as is usually condoned by the phrase “boys will be boys”), then nothing is going to change. And those individuals who pressure their peers to participate in the same kind of damaged behavior are a cancer on the face of the rest of MANkind. I’m fairly certain none of this rant will actually penetrate the craniums of any knuckle-draggers who accidentally stumbled on this comment, but for the rest of you reading this, I challenge you to do your part to change the world.
*END RANT*
I am surprised that “Sappho” chose not to target my comments about DU ppl coming to IIT and getting fucked…

ahem…in case you didnt notice, that was actually the LEAST objectionable part of my comment…
hmm…but then again, cant really expect Step-Hens to understand everything, can we…
and yeah… sitting for CAT after spending 5 years studying physics isnt the fad in IITK. It might be in your neck of the woods, but trust me, it isnt here…but then again, I dont see why you should sit in CAT either. You’ll only embarass yourself
As far as arrogance is concerned, A) we dont show it without provocation and B) in the event of existence of provocation, trust me, we are entitled to be arrogant
And by the way, for the sake of argument, let us assume for a second that we are indeed the Chest thumping simian derivatives you accuse us to be, totally devoid of the so called higher emotions. In that case, it is true, this blog post and the comments on it could be seen as indicative of some hidden insecurity that is shared by all IITians. Thats our excuse.
So if that is true, then, whats your excuse? What makes your people from your college complain about molesters in a place which is already overpacked, and where they arent even welcome.Am I to assume that it betryas some hidden insecurities that your positively angelic female classmates have acquired DURING their stint at DU?
What makes students from your college(s) rally about “Holes in our ozone”, when somebody who is not doing it to get into the pants of the nearest hot chick would at least know that the holes are not in ozone, they are in a layer of ozone? Is that why the girls from your college are so insecure?
And as far as arrogance is concerned, what makes YOU so arrogant? A bunch from DU is instantly recognizable in anywhere from the way they stand looking solemn and sophisticated, wearing shades and shoes whose price tags are in sharp contrast with the sage like look on their faces, discussing Che Guevera and communism and Barcelona. And yeah, DU ppl NEVER talk to people from anywhere else. They have their own private arcana where they all commune. Trust me, we dont have problems in mingling. You do. Because you are pampered
So my advice to you is, come out from your shoddy little North cmapus or South campus or wherever it is you live. Its a big world, and i think you have much to see in it
Lot’s tl;dr in here. Go go go!
Is it sappho…the short form of Sapphic as they say ???
it is shame on you for protecting your college’s name on such a bad incident. Remember knowledge and IQ is not everything Character is most importatnt thing also one more thing would you have written the article in same way if that girl was supposed to be your sister??
@ramankit: point taken, though not very sure wat it really was.
@sappho: u were cuter in inuyasha. sorry insecure geeky joke. i can’t help the way i am, can i?
lolz m the one who had done that all………!!
it was just a part of my survey…i wanted to experience how one can feel after breaking the social rules ; after all garkinkel is my guru..!! he told me to do that and try to feel the depth….!!
BTW it was fun…!!:P
lolz